Why the Viet Cong Were Called “Charlie”
First, because I suspect there are at least a few people curious and it pertains to how the name “Charlie” ultimately came about, let’s discuss how the term “Viet Cong” came about at all. It comes from “Việt Nam Cộng-sản”, which just means “Vietnamese Communists”. This, in turn, was shortened to just Việt Cộng, with the first documented instances of such appearing in various Saigon newspapers in 1956.
From here, “Viet Cong” was commonly further shortened to “VC”, which in the NATO phonetic alphabet is pronounced “Victor-Charlie”, which gave rise to the further shortened, “Charlie” designation.
It’s also interesting to note here that “Vietnamese Communists” is possibly something of misnomer, at least partially. Even though the Viet Cong, or “National Liberation Front for South Vietnam”, were in some ways an arm of the People’s Army of Vietnam in the North, fighting the same cause (against the U.S. and the Southern Vietnamese government the U.S. was supporting), in fact some members of the Viet Cong were not themselves necessarily communists. They were just people who joined the National Liberation Front because they weren’t happy with the foreign influence on their government and the presence of foreign soldiers. However, due to rampant war propaganda on both sides, it’s difficult to ascertain just what percentage (significant or not) of the National Liberation Front was actually South Vietnamese people who simply were fed up with their government and the U.S. interference, and what percentage was made up of Northern forces or otherwise supplied or directly under Northern control.
Whatever the case, as the United States and the South Vietnamese government’s official stance during the war was more of the latter “Arm of the People’s Army”. Thus, amongst U.S. soldiers and South Vietnamese allies, “Viet Cong” (and “Charlie” for the U.S. soldiers) came to commonly refer not just to the South Vietnamese National Liberation Front, but also to the North Vietnamese army soldiers- basically, any enemy Vietnamese troops were slapped with the label.
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There is a Brand of shoe for sale from Vietnam named Charly.
Back in the day, we used (in the 9th “Waterborne” Inf Div, operating in the Mekong Delta) “Charlie” to refer to the locals (most of whom were killed in Tet and the May Offensive — see “House to House” by Keith Nolan), and “Mister Charles” to refer to the NVA (aka PAVN, the People’s Army of Viet Nam).
“the Law West of the Rach Nha Be”
(Machete Charlie 16 Actual)
1st Bdg 9th Inf Div
The use of “roger” over radio has a similar origin. In the days of morse code radios, a received message was indicated by sending the letter R, which meant “received”. In the old phonetic alphabet, the word for R was “roger”; saying “roger” became the custom when voice radios came about.
With the millions of random things I seem to google every day, I can’t believe I never bothered to find out about “roger”. Thanks, X!
I think it is misleading in describing out the risk of chlorine gas production from a seawater intrusion as a “design flaw,” unless one describes the overall design of a submarine as a design flaw. The use of batteries was a necessity given the need for electric motors to power the submarine. All navies used batteries. Did therefor all navies have design flaws in their submarines which used batteries?
Around say 1955-56, when I was 6-7 years old my dad was telling me WWII stories and he said that the Japanese, and more recently (back then) the Koreans were referred to as “Charlie” because “Charlie” had been a common password in WWII because it was difficult for Asians to say.
I am of the firm belief that the term, “Charlie” did not come from the weird shortening of an abbreviation, rather from some of the original combatants in Vietnam: veterans from WWII and Korea. All this, “Victor Charlie” crap, like the supposed origins of many sayings is simply misguided and I will probably be the last person to ever know the true meaning. Cool.