{"id":52248,"date":"2017-07-17T00:05:22","date_gmt":"2017-07-17T07:05:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/?p=52248"},"modified":"2017-08-04T02:31:59","modified_gmt":"2017-08-04T09:31:59","slug":"origin-phrase-going-dutch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2017\/07\/origin-phrase-going-dutch\/","title":{"rendered":"Why is it Called &#8220;Going Dutch&#8221; When You Pay for Yourself?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pf-content\"><div class=\"highlighter\">Michael W. asks: Why is splitting the tab and paying for yourself called Dutch?<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/going-dutch.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-52366\" src=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/going-dutch-340x227.png\" alt=\"going-dutch\" width=\"340\" height=\"227\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/going-dutch-340x227.png 340w, https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/going-dutch-768x512.png 768w, https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/06\/going-dutch-640x427.png 640w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 340px) 100vw, 340px\" \/><\/a>The idea of paying for yourself when out with friends being referred to as some expression including the word &#8220;Dutch,&#8221; seemingly incorrectly is often connected to the fact that for several centuries beginning in the 17th, the word <em>Dutch<\/em> had a negative connotation in English, variously meaning cheap, duplicitous, alcoholic, poor, treacherous, selfish or just plain wrong.<\/p>\n<p>The derogatory usage of &#8220;Dutch&#8221; stems from animosity between the English and Dutch due to their competing positions as naval powers, which would ultimately erupt into full on wars, mostly fought at sea. It&#8217;s no surprise then that by the middle of the 17th century when war broke out, the English had come up with some choice derogatory expressions related to their rivals.<\/p>\n<p>Specifically, by 1654, the first derogatory uses of <em>Dutch<\/em> began appearing in print, such as R. Whitlock&#8217;s <em>Zworouia<\/em>: &#8220;The contract is not (like Dutch Bargains) made in Drinke.&#8221; Soon, phrases such as <em>Dutch palate<\/em> (1687 meaning low class) and <em>Dutch reckoning<\/em> (1699 meaning poor accounting, particularly a bill that doesn&#8217;t include details and potentially becomes bigger if you question it) were also appearing.<\/p>\n<p>That said, contrary to what is often said, none of this appears to have anything to do with the various &#8220;Dutch&#8221; expressions meaning to pay for one&#8217;s self.\u00a0 In fact, the origin of this expression might even have little to do with what we think of today as &#8220;Dutch&#8221; at all.<\/p>\n<p>In the 17th and 18th centuries, many German-speaking groups immigrated to the United States. For those that settled in Pennsylvania, they became known as Pennsylvania Dutch.\u00a0 As to why these German-speaking people were called this in the first place, for some time in English, High Dutch generally referred to people from parts of Germany and nearby mountainous regions and Low Dutch got applied to people from the Netherlands, at the time with these regions part of the Holy Roman Empire. Even after they gained their respective independence, the naming scheme still stuck around for a while in certain places, like America.<\/p>\n<p>In the United States, it would seem that the Pennsylvania Dutch had a reputation for never owing anyone anything to the point that, even with a group of friends in a tavern, the reputation was that each person would pay his own bill.<\/p>\n<p>Whether this reputation is wholly accurate or not, in the United States, various phrases that included the word &#8220;Dutch&#8221; became synonymous with this characteristic and eventually different variations with the meaning began to appear in print, including: &#8220;Dutch treat&#8221; (1873), &#8220;Dutch lunch&#8221; (1897) and &#8220;go Dutch&#8221; (1914).<\/p>\n<p>For instance, the earliest documented instance of the first of these line of expressions appeared in the <em>Daily Democrat<\/em> on June 27, 1873:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If our temperance friends could institute what is called the \u201cDutch treat\u201d into our saloons, each man paying his reckoning, it would be a long step towards reforming in drinking to excess.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The next up was the &#8220;Dutch lunch,&#8221; with the first known instance appearing in the Fort Wayne <em>Morning Journal<\/em> on October 24, 1897,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Perhaps you have a fatter pocketbook than some of the other fellows. I, for instance, can\u2019t afford to buy two tickets every time I go. So some of the boys and I go on the \u201cDutch lunch\u201d plan: everybody for himself.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Interestingly, at the same time these expressions were taking on their figurative sense, they were also occasionally used literally, as in describing the food eaten by the Pennsylvania Dutch.\u00a0 To wit, an 1894 newspaper report found by esteemed etymologist Michael Quinion of the truly phenomenal <a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldwidewords.org\/index.htm\"><em>World Wise Words<\/em><\/a> notes that a &#8220;Dutch supper,&#8221; should include rye bread, cabbage salad, Wienerwursts, and beer &#8220;consistently expressive of [the] vaterland.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Given that this line of &#8220;Dutch X&#8221; expressions didn&#8217;t appear until the late 19th to early 20th centuries; they first appeared in the United States, rather than Britain; they seem in many cases to be referring to Pennsylvania Dutch; and they aren&#8217;t inherently derogatory, it&#8217;s thought by many etymologists that, contrary to what is often said, these expressions probably had nothing to do with the former lineup of derogatory &#8220;Dutch X&#8221; expressions invented by the British a couple centuries before.<\/p>\n<p>If you liked this article, you might also enjoy our new popular podcast, The BrainFood Show (<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-brainfoodshow\/id1350586459\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/36xpXQMPVXhWJzMoCHPJKd\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/playmusic.app.goo.gl\/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&#038;isi=691797987&#038;ius=googleplaymusic&#038;apn=com.google.android.music&#038;link=https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Insimdi4g6puyyr4qbt6tup5b6m?t%3DThe_BrainFood_Show%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Google Play Music<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/feed\/brainfood\/\" target=\"_blank\">Feed<\/a>), as well as:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/03\/say-gesundheit-someone-sneezes\/\">Why We Say Gesundheit When Someone Sneezes<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2016\/07\/know-chicken-butt\/\">The Origin of the Expression \u201cGuess what? Chicken Butt!\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/11\/sleeping-tight-bed-bugs-started-bite\/\">\u201cSleeping Tight\u201d and When the Bed Bugs Started to Bite<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/01\/origin-expression-big-cheese-four-common-expressions\/\">The Origin of the Expression \u201cThe Big Cheese\u201d<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span id=\"bonusfacts\">Bonus<\/span> Facts:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><em>Dutch courage<\/em>, drinking alcohol until you become brave, dates to at least 1826, when Sir Walter Scott wrote in <em>Woodstock<\/em>: &#8220;Laying in a store of what is called Dutch courage.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li><em>Double Dutch<\/em>, the two-rope skipping game was first seen in print in the late 19th century, when <em>Harper&#8217;s Magazine <\/em>included it with a list of others in 1895: &#8220;He skipped &#8216;slow-poker&#8217;, &#8216;pepper-salt&#8217;, and &#8216;double Dutch.'&#8221; However, the game itself is said to have been introduced hundreds of years earlier, when New York City was known as New Amsterdam, so named by its Dutch settlers. According to the National Double Dutch League, the game&#8217;s name was coined by the children of English settlers who learned to play it from their Dutch peers.<\/li>\n<li><em>Double Dutch <\/em>also had another meaning in the late 19th century, as an inscrutable language, as shown in C.H. Wall&#8217;s translation of Moli\u00e8re&#8217;s <em>Lovers&#8217; Quarrels <\/em>(1876): &#8220;Though I have said them [prayers] daily now these fifty years, they are still double Dutch to me.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>Splitting the bill is rather common today in Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Iceland and Ireland.<\/li>\n<li>In Catalonia, Spain, going Dutch is called <em>pager a la catalana<\/em> (to pay the Catalan way) and in parts of Italy, the expression is <em>pagare alla romana <\/em>(to pay the Roman way).<\/li>\n<li>As splitting the bill used to be considered incredibly rude in many places, but is becoming more common with globalization, the practice&#8217;s place of origin is also changing. For instance, in Egypt bill-splitting is called <em>Englizy <\/em>(meaning &#8220;English style&#8221;), in Turkey, it is called <em>hesabi Alman usul\u00fc \u00f6demek <\/em>(&#8220;to pay the German way&#8221;), and in Pakistan, it is called the &#8220;American System.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>Holland derives from an Old Dutch word that meant &#8220;wood land&#8221; and originally described the northern part of the Netherlands.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<span class=\"collapseomatic \" id=\"id69f0278a1a489\"  tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Expand for References\"    >Expand for References<\/span><div id=\"target-id69f0278a1a489\" class=\"collapseomatic_content \">\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Anglo-Dutch_Wars\">Anglo-Dutch Wars<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.etymonline.com\/index.php?term=Dutch\">Dutch<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Going_Dutch\">Going Dutch<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nationaldoubledutchleague.com\/History.htm\">History of Double Dutch<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.etymonline.com\/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&amp;search=holland\">Holland<\/a><\/li>\n<li>OED via Public Library of Cincinnati and Hamilton County<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Pennsylvania_Dutch\">Pennsylvania Dutch<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/timesofindia.indiatimes.com\/home\/sunday-times\/What-is-the-origin-of-the-phrase-to-go-Dutch-\/articleshow\/8908790.cms\">What is the origin of the phrase &#8220;to go Dutch&#8221;?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/blog.dictionary.com\/demonym\/\">Why Are People from the Netherlands Called Dutch?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/mentalfloss.com\/article\/66871\/why-do-we-refer-splitting-bill-going-dutch\">Why Do We Refer to Splitting the Bill as Going Dutch?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldwidewords.org\/qa\/qa-goi3.htm\">Going Dutch<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.worldwidewords.org\/qa\/qa-dut1.htm\">Terms Using Dutch<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Michael W. asks: Why is splitting the tab and paying for yourself called Dutch? The idea of paying for yourself when out with friends being referred to as some expression including the word &#8220;Dutch,&#8221; seemingly incorrectly is often connected to the fact that for several centuries beginning in the 17th, the word Dutch had a negative connotation in English, variously [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":35,"featured_media":52366,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,2781,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-52248","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-today-i-found-out","category-featured-facts","category-language"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/52248","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/35"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=52248"}],"version-history":[{"count":12,"href":"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/52248\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":52548,"href":"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/52248\/revisions\/52548"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/52366"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=52248"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=52248"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=52248"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}