{"id":41904,"date":"2015-07-22T00:09:56","date_gmt":"2015-07-22T07:09:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/?p=41904"},"modified":"2015-07-22T03:16:25","modified_gmt":"2015-07-22T10:16:25","slug":"truth-infamous-mcdonalds-hot-coffee-incident","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2015\/07\/truth-infamous-mcdonalds-hot-coffee-incident\/","title":{"rendered":"The Truth About the Infamous McDonald&#8217;s \/ Hot Coffee Incident"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pf-content\"><div class=\"highlighter\">Brandon M. asks: Is it true that McDonalds had to pay millions of dollars to someone because she spilled hot coffee on herself or is it an urban legend?<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/coffee2.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-42228\" src=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/coffee2-340x225.png\" alt=\"coffee2\" width=\"340\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/coffee2-340x225.png 340w, http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/coffee2-640x424.png 640w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 340px) 100vw, 340px\" \/><\/a>The infamous McDonald\u2019s \u201cHot Coffee\u201d legal battle is considered by many to be a premier example of a frivolous lawsuit. The general story is often told that a woman named Stella Liebeck visited a McDonald\u2019s drive-thru and purchased a cup of coffee. She then drove away with the coffee sitting between her legs while also removing the lid. That combination caused coffee to spill all over her lap. The resulting burns allowed her to file suit and win almost $3 million from McDonald\u2019s.<\/p>\n<p>While that oft&#8217; repeated version makes for an entertaining story, it is a bit removed from what really happened and why Liebeck managed to win the case.<\/p>\n<p>Stella Liebeck was seventy-nine years old in February of 1992 when she and her grandson went through the drive-thru at a McDonald\u2019s in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The retired store clerk sat in the passenger seat of her grandson\u2019s car when she bought a coffee, and he parked the car in the restaurant\u2019s parking lot so she could add sugar and cream to her drink with the car stopped.<\/p>\n<p>Liebeck held the cup between her legs (the Ford Probe she was in did not have cup holders) while removing the lid, and the cup slipped. It spilled coffee later estimated to be between 180 and 190 degrees Fahrenheit all over her legs and groin. Her sweatpants absorbed the extremely hot coffee and kept it against her skin, worsening the injury. The result was third-degree burns over 6% of her body and other burns on an additional 10%. She spent eight days in the hospital to treat the burns to her genitals, legs, and butt. During that time, she lost 20% of her body weight (bringing her down to 83 pounds) and she had to endure skin grafts and a procedure where doctors remove dead tissue from a wound, known as debridement. The burns also left her with significant scars and partially disabled for two years.<\/p>\n<p>When Liebeck first contacted McDonald\u2019s to let them know what had happened, she asked for them to cover the cost of her medical bills. She reportedly wanted around $11,000. McDonald\u2019s felt that because they really had nothing to do with how the coffee was spilled, they shouldn&#8217;t be liable, but did offer her a payment of $800. She refused their counteroffer and hired an attorney.<\/p>\n<p>Texas attorney Reed Morgan agreed to take on Liebeck\u2019s case. This happened to be Morgan\u2019s second time facing off against McDonald\u2019s over hot coffee. Years earlier, he represented woman from Houston who also received third-degree burns from McDonald\u2019s coffee. That case was settled out of court with the plaintiff receiving $27,500 in damages.<\/p>\n<p>These two cases were not the only ones McDonald\u2019s had to deal with concerning the scalding temperature of its coffee. Between 1982 and 1992, the fast food giant received more than 700 reports of coffee burning customers and paid over $500,000 to settle coffee-related lawsuits. A number of the reported injuries bore a striking resemblance to those suffered by Liebeck, including many instances of third-degree burns.<\/p>\n<p>Morgan offered to settle the case before it went to trial for the sum of $300,000, but McDonald\u2019s legal team again refused. Both sides also attended mediation ahead of the jury trial at the judge\u2019s order, and the mediator recommended McDonald\u2019s pay Liebeck a settlement of $225,000.<\/p>\n<p>Again, McDonald\u2019s refused. Why they were being so adamant in this case and not many other similar ones that occurred before isn&#8217;t clear. Some speculate McDonald&#8217;s was wanting to settle the issue once and for all to avoid having to continue to deal with these frivolous hot coffee lawsuits, but picking a case where a frail, elderly woman who was severely burned perhaps wasn&#8217;t the smartest plan if that was their motivation. Whatever the case, the trial went forward, lasting seven days in August of 1994.<\/p>\n<p>McDonald\u2019s legal team argued that Liebeck failed to minimize the chance of injury by holding the coffee between her thighs in the first place and she should have removed her sweatpants immediately upon spilling the coffee. They also stated that they&#8217;d have to lower the temperature of the coffee to unpalatable levels to completely eliminate the risk of such spill burns.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/third-degree-burns.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-42231\" src=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/third-degree-burns-340x184.png\" alt=\"third degree burns\" width=\"340\" height=\"184\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/third-degree-burns-340x184.png 340w, http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/third-degree-burns-640x346.png 640w, http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/07\/third-degree-burns.png 959w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 340px) 100vw, 340px\" \/><\/a>Liebeck&#8217;s crew fired back that at 190 degrees Fahrenheit, the temperature around which McDonald&#8217;s serves its coffee at, it takes only about three seconds to produce third-degree burns, and that lowering the temperature to 160 degrees would be much safer, needing about 20 seconds to cause similar third degree burns. (It should be noted that the latter estimates presented by Liebeck&#8217;s team <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ameriburn.org\/Preven\/ScaldInjuryEducator%27sGuide.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">do not line up with data from the American Burn Association<\/a>, see chart from them to the right.)<\/p>\n<p>Testimony from a McDonald\u2019s quality control manager, Chris Appleton, when questioned by Liebeck&#8217;s attorney,\u00a0Reed Morgan, revealed he knew, of course, that coffee served at those <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jtexconsumerlaw.com\/V11N1\/Coffee.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">temperatures was dangerous<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cQ: [Y]ou know, as a matter of fact, that coffee is a hazard, selling it at 180 to 190 degrees, don\u2019t you?<\/p>\n<p>A: I have testified before, the fact that this coffee can cause burns.<\/p>\n<p>Q: It is hazardous at this temperature?<\/p>\n<p>A: At that high temperature the coffee is a hazard.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Appleton\u00a0then stated customers could not safely drink the coffee within the first few minutes of receiving it without cooling measures. He was also on the receiving end of Morgan\u2019s questioning when the lawyer drove home the company\u2019s neglect for safety when they <a href=\"http:\/\/www.jtexconsumerlaw.com\/V11N1\/Coffee.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">refused to change their procedures<\/a>.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cQ: \u2026 I\u2019m curious because I\u2019ve shown you recordations here of some 700 people here that have been burned [by McDonald\u2019s coffee]. Obviously, to you 700 people burned is not a significantly high enough number to turn down the heat. Do you have in mind a number of how many people would have to be burned for you to become so concerned that you would insist that burn specialists be consulted and something be done to sell this coffee at a lower temperature?<\/p>\n<p>A: No, I don\u2019t have a number in mind.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Appleton also stated that the company had no intention of changing its coffee temperature policies, despite what happened to Liebeck and others before her, stating, &#8220;There are more serious dangers in restaurants.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Another witness for McDonald\u2019s, engineer P. Robert Knaff, noted that the number of injuries was statistically insignificant when measured against the annual sale of billions of cups of coffee.<\/p>\n<p>Though unequivocally true on all counts, being seemingly nonchalant about injuries to customers was really the heart of why McDonald&#8217;s lost this otherwise frivolous lawsuit, at least according to interviews with some of the jurors after the fact.<\/p>\n<p>As juror Jerry Goens noted, before the case, he thought it somewhat silly and that he &#8220;wasn&#8217;t convinced as to why I needed to be there to settle a coffee spill.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Over the course of the trial, however, the jurors&#8217; opinions changed, not so much because of what happened to Liebeck or the circumstances of the specific case, but, as one of the jurors, Jack Elliot, noted, the seemingly &#8220;callous disregard for the safety of the people&#8221; that McDonald&#8217;s exhibited in the case.\u00a0 Another juror noted, &#8220;there was a person behind every number and I don\u2019t think the corporation was attaching enough importance to that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Presumably making such claims like that if Liebeck wasn&#8217;t so old, this wouldn&#8217;t have been as much of a problem (with her burns likely being less severe if she had the skin of a younger person, according to McDonald&#8217;s) didn&#8217;t help the company out in this regard.<\/p>\n<p>The jury spent little time deciding that McDonald\u2019s was liable for Liebeck\u2019s injures. They initially awarded her $200,000 for her injuries, but reduced that number to $160,000 after deciding Liebeck bore 20% of the responsibility for the incident. Then they awarded her punitive damages, or damages used to send a message to the party responsible, in the amount of an additional $2.7 million. The jurors came to the $2.7 million figure after determining, by their estimate, McDonald\u2019s was selling approximately $1.35 million worth of coffee each day, and the award should be equivalent to two days of coffee sales for the company.<\/p>\n<p>However, Liebeck didn&#8217;t actually get anywhere near that amount of money, at least as far as public record goes. The judge in the case reduced the punitive damages to $480,000, bringing the total judgement down to $640,000. Both sides appealed the decision, but their appeals were never heard as they agreed to an undisclosed settlement during mediation, thought to have been under $600,000.<\/p>\n<p>The verdict and case actually kind of worked out for McDonald&#8217;s.\u00a0 Public opinion over the matter almost wholly sided with McDonald&#8217;s, a rare thing for such &#8220;little guy vs. corporation&#8221; type cases. And now the whole country, and beyond, was discussing and defending McDonald&#8217;s and noting the fact that McDonald&#8217;s was a place you could get a cheap, piping hot, cup of coffee.<\/p>\n<p>So did anything change as a result of the verdict? Not really. One change that did happen was that McDonald\u2019s and other companies began putting large warning labels on their hot beverages to warn consumers that, well, they&#8217;re hot.<\/p>\n<p>They did not, however, seem to reduce the temperature of their coffee, nor have other coffee vendors, with the industry standard still typically being to brew coffee at around 200 degrees Fahrenheit and sell it around 180 degrees Fahrenheit or so, give or take ten degrees. It turns out, customers actually prefer many types of coffee hot&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>As such, to avoid similar frivolous lawsuits as much as possible, the solution has largely been the development of better container designs to minimize the risk of spilling the scalding liquid in the first place.<\/p>\n<p>If you liked this article, you might also enjoy our new popular podcast, The BrainFood Show (<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-brainfoodshow\/id1350586459\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/36xpXQMPVXhWJzMoCHPJKd\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/playmusic.app.goo.gl\/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&#038;isi=691797987&#038;ius=googleplaymusic&#038;apn=com.google.android.music&#038;link=https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Insimdi4g6puyyr4qbt6tup5b6m?t%3DThe_BrainFood_Show%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Google Play Music<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/feed\/brainfood\/\" target=\"_blank\">Feed<\/a>), as well as:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/04\/colonel-sanders-actually-colonel\/\" target=\"_blank\">62, Broke, and Living In His Car- The Story of Colonel Sanders and the Founding of KFC<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/10\/mcdonald-mcdonalds-restaurant\/\" target=\"_blank\">Who is McDonald in McDonald\u2019s Restaurant<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/01\/taco-bell-started-hot-dog-stand\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Business That Would Evolve Into Taco Bell Started Out Selling Hot Dogs<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/08\/cornell-professor-gave-us-chicken-nugget\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Cornell Professor Who Gave Us the Chicken Nugget<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2013\/06\/how-much-caffeine-would-it-take-to-kill-you\/\">How Much Caffeine Would It Take to Kill You?<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<span class=\"collapseomatic \" id=\"id6a1bc32a40570\"  tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Expand for References\"    >Expand for References<\/span><div id=\"target-id6a1bc32a40570\" class=\"collapseomatic_content \">\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2013\/10\/21\/booming\/not-just-a-hot-cup-anymore.html\">Not Just a Hot Cup Anymore<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.caoc.org\/?pg=facts\">The McDonald\u2019s Hot Coffee Case<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.business.txstate.edu\/users\/ds26\/Business%20Law%202361\/Misc\/McDonalds%20coffee.pdf\">A Matter of Degree: How a Jury Decided That a Coffee Spill Is Worth $2.9 Million<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ttla.com\/index.cfm?pg=McDonaldsCoffeeCaseFacts\">McDonald\u2019s Hot Coffee Case \u2013 Read the Facts NOT the Fiction<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/injury.findlaw.com\/product-liability\/the-mcdonald-s-coffee-cup-case-separating-mcfacts-from-mcfiction.html\">The McDonald\u2019s Hot Coffee Case<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.jtexconsumerlaw.com\/V11N1\/Coffee.pdf\">The McDonald\u2019s Coffee Lawsuit<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2013\/10\/28\/booming\/storm-still-brews-over-scalding-coffee.html\">Storm Still Brews Over Scalding Coffee<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/abnormaluse.com\/2011\/01\/stella-liebeck-mcdonalds-hot-coffee.html\">The Stella Liebeck McDonald\u2019s Hot Coffee Case FAQ <\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.businessinsider.com\/retro-report-examines-stella-liebeck-case-2013-10\">How A $2.9 Million Jury Verdict Over Spilled Coffee Became America\u2019s Most Misunderstood Story<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.citizen.org\/congress\/article_redirect.cfm?ID=785#_ednref15\">Legal Myths: The McDonald\u2019s \u201cHot Coffee\u201d Case<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.healogics.com\/Patients\/patients\/wound-debridement\">Wound Debridement <\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Liebeck_v._McDonald%27s_Restaurants\" target=\"_blank\">Leibeck vs. McDonalds<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Brandon M. asks: Is it true that McDonalds had to pay millions of dollars to someone because she spilled hot coffee on herself or is it an urban legend? 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