{"id":38890,"date":"2015-02-23T00:10:49","date_gmt":"2015-02-23T08:10:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/?p=38890"},"modified":"2015-02-21T18:47:44","modified_gmt":"2015-02-22T02:47:44","slug":"exceptions-rule-e-except-c","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2015\/02\/exceptions-rule-e-except-c\/","title":{"rendered":"I Before E, Except After C"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pf-content\"><div class=\"highlighter\">Jeremy R. asks: Is it true that more words break the I before E rule than follow it? If so, how come this is taught at all?<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/caffeine.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-39307\" src=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/caffeine-340x225.jpg\" alt=\"caffeine\" width=\"340\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/caffeine-340x225.jpg 340w, http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/caffeine-640x424.jpg 640w, http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/caffeine.jpg 1600w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 340px) 100vw, 340px\" \/><\/a>If you ever want to start a fight among a group of linguists and orthographers, bring up the grammar school rule: &#8220;I before E, except after C,&#8221; which has been around since at least the mid-19th century. You will likely begin the most sedate and erudite brawl you could ever hope to witness.<\/p>\n<p>First, there are arguments over what exactly the rule should be. Some (like me) were taught what I&#8217;m calling the &#8220;neighbor [e<strong>i<\/strong>]\u00a0rule&#8221;: &#8220;<em>I before E, except after in C or words that say &#8220;\u0101&#8221; [e<strong>i<\/strong>], as in neighbor and weigh.&#8221;[1]<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Others were given a variation, hereinafter called the &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=1525\" target=\"_blank\">receive [i] rule<\/a>&#8220;: &#8220;<em>I before E except after C when the sound is &#8220;ee&#8221;&#8221; [i].<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Although not perfect, it appears the latter version makes a better rule (if you&#8217;re going to have one), since it has fewer exceptions given that a smaller number of words are brought within its orbit in the first place.<\/p>\n<p>Note that some words fit the first part of both rules:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><em>ie: <\/em><\/strong><em>bel<strong>ie<\/strong>ve, coll<strong>ie<\/strong>, d<strong>ie<\/strong> <\/em>and <em>fr<strong>ie<\/strong>nd<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>cei<\/em><\/strong><em>: c<strong>ei<\/strong>ling, dec<strong>ei<\/strong>ve <\/em>and <em>rec<strong>ei<\/strong>pt<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>After that, the list of compliant words (and exceptions) begins to deviate. Consider this list of words that do not violate the receive [i] rule, but do violate the neighbor [e<strong>i<\/strong>] rule:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><em>ei<\/em><\/strong><em>: counterf<strong>ei<\/strong>t, f<strong>ei<\/strong>sty, for<strong>ei<\/strong>gn, kal<strong>ei<\/strong>doscope, polterg<strong>ei<\/strong>st, s<strong>ei<\/strong>smograph, surf<strong>ei<\/strong>t and th<strong>ei<\/strong>r<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>cie<\/em><\/strong><em>: anc<strong>ie<\/strong>nt, defic<strong>ie<\/strong>nt, glac<strong>ie<\/strong>r, profic<strong>ie<\/strong>nt, soc<strong>ie<\/strong>ty, sc<strong>ie<\/strong>nce <\/em>and<em> suffic<strong>ie<\/strong>nt<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>ie<\/em><\/strong><em> [e<strong>i<\/strong>]: ga<strong>ie<\/strong>ty<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Of course, there are some exceptions that violate both rules as well, and these include:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><strong><em>ei<\/em><\/strong><em>: caff<strong>ei<\/strong>ne, l<strong>ei<\/strong>sure, prot<strong>ei<\/strong>n, s<strong>e<\/strong>ize <\/em>and<em> w<strong>ei<\/strong>rd<strong><a href=\"#_ftn2\" name=\"_ftnref2\">[2]<\/a><\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><em>cie<\/em><\/strong><em>: deficienc<strong>ie<\/strong>s and spec<strong>ie<\/strong>s<\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>All of this leads to another argument: whether or not to have a rule at all.<\/p>\n<p>Some, like <a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=1525\" target=\"_blank\">Geoffrey K. Pullum<\/a> (who ascribes to the receive [i] rule, although for him the phoneme is written [i:]), have characterized it as &#8220;a very helpful guide to one small point in the hideous mess that is English orthography.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>And others, like <a href=\"http:\/\/alt-usage-english.org\/excerpts\/fxibefor.html\" target=\"_blank\">Mark Wainwright<\/a>, have noted that because the &#8220;except after C&#8221; portion &#8220;covers the many derivatives of Latin <em>capio <\/em>[= &#8220;take&#8221;] . . . <em>receive, deceit, inconceivable<\/em> . . . [the] simple rule of thumb is necessary&#8221; and efficacious.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, there are those who find the exceptions have swallowed the rule, rendering it useless, and these include the UK&#8217;s education department which, in 2009, advised teachers through a document titled, <em>Support for Spelling<\/em> that: &#8220;<em>The I before e except after c rule is not worth teaching [since] it applies only to words . . . which . . . stand for a clear \/ee\/ sound and unless this is known, [many] words . . . look like exceptions. There are so few words where the ei spelling for the \/ee\/ sound follows the letter c that it is easier to learn the specific words.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>This point of view finds support in the claim, made on the BBC show <em>QI<\/em>, that <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=duqlZXiIZqA&amp;app=desktop\" target=\"_blank\">there are 923 words that are spelled<\/a> <em>cie<\/em>, and only about 40 or so that are spelled <em>cei<\/em>, and for those who follow the neighbor [ei] rule, the <em>extreme<\/em> number of exceptions has rendered the rule &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/alt-usage-english.org\/I_before_E.html\">dumb and useless<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>If you liked this article, you might also enjoy our new popular podcast, The BrainFood Show (<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-brainfoodshow\/id1350586459\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/36xpXQMPVXhWJzMoCHPJKd\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/playmusic.app.goo.gl\/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&#038;isi=691797987&#038;ius=googleplaymusic&#038;apn=com.google.android.music&#038;link=https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Insimdi4g6puyyr4qbt6tup5b6m?t%3DThe_BrainFood_Show%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Google Play Music<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/feed\/brainfood\/\" target=\"_blank\">Feed<\/a>), as well as:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/11\/truth-prepositions-end-sentences\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Truth About Prepositions and the End of Sentences<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2013\/09\/the-origin-of-the-english-alphabet\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Origin of the English Alphabet<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2012\/02\/split-infinitives-are-not-incorrect-grammatically\/\" target=\"_blank\">Split Infinitives are Not Incorrect Grammatically and Why for a Very Brief Time Certain Academics Thought They Should Be<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/11\/origins-english-contractions\/\" target=\"_blank\">Did English Speakers Really Not Use Contractions in the 19th Century as Depicted in True Grit?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/02\/differences-british-american-english\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Differences Between British and American English<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<span class=\"collapseomatic \" id=\"id69e133b15db57\"  tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Expand for References\"    >Expand for References<\/span><div id=\"target-id69e133b15db57\" class=\"collapseomatic_content \">\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/I_before_E_except_after_C#cite_ref-34\">I before E except after C<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ojohaven.com\/fun\/broken.rules.html\">The Broken Rules Page<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/alt-usage-english.org\/I_before_E.html\">Exceptions to the I before E rule<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=1525\">Language Log: I before E<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/alt-usage-english.org\/excerpts\/fxibefor.html\">Mark Wainwright: I before E except after C<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ling.upenn.edu\/courses\/Fall_2003\/ling001\/English.html\">Pronunciation of English<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/uk_news\/education\/8110573.stm\">Schools to rethink &#8216;I before E&#8221;<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Endnotes<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\">[1]<\/a>\u00a0For reference: a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.ling.upenn.edu\/courses\/Fall_2003\/ling001\/English.html\">chart of IPA pronunciation symbols<\/a> for both American and British English.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref2\" name=\"_ftn2\">[2]<\/a> In American pronunciation, the vowel sounds in<em> leisure<\/em> and <em>weird<\/em> are pronounced [i], although in British English they do not make the \/ee\/ (as in<em> receive<\/em>) sound, and so would not be exceptions to the rule.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jeremy R. asks: Is it true that more words break the I before E rule than follow it? If so, how come this is taught at all? If you ever want to start a fight among a group of linguists and orthographers, bring up the grammar school rule: &#8220;I before E, except after C,&#8221; which has been around since at [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":35,"featured_media":39307,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2308,3,7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-38890","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-answers","category-today-i-found-out","category-language"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38890","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/35"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=38890"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38890\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":39313,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/38890\/revisions\/39313"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/39307"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=38890"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=38890"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=38890"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}