{"id":20999,"date":"2013-04-24T23:00:41","date_gmt":"2013-04-25T06:00:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/?p=20999"},"modified":"2014-11-18T02:47:18","modified_gmt":"2014-11-18T10:47:18","slug":"the-origin-of-humpty-dumpty","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2013\/04\/the-origin-of-humpty-dumpty\/","title":{"rendered":"The Origin of Humpty Dumpty"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pf-content\"><div class=\"highlighter\">Nevin asks: Why is &#8220;Humpty Dumpty&#8221; always depicted as an egg?<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/humpty-dumpty.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-21052\" src=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/humpty-dumpty-340x225.jpg\" alt=\"humpty-dumpty\" width=\"340\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/humpty-dumpty-340x225.jpg 340w, http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/humpty-dumpty-640x424.jpg 640w, http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/04\/humpty-dumpty.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 340px) 100vw, 340px\" \/><\/a>As you seem to have noticed, in the &#8220;Humpty Dumpty&#8221; nursery rhyme, nowhere does it say that Humpty is an egg, yet he is often presented as such in pictures and stories. The version of the rhyme that most children learn today goes like this:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p><i>Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall,<br \/>\n<\/i><i>Humpty Dumpty had a great fall.<br \/>\n<\/i><i>All the king\u2019s horses and all the king\u2019s men<br \/>\n<\/i><em id=\"__mceDel\"><em id=\"__mceDel\"><em id=\"__mceDel\"><i>Couldn\u2019t put Humpty together again.<\/i><\/em><\/em><\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The first known publication of Humpty Dumpty was included in <i>Juvenile Amusements<\/i> by Samuel Arnold in 1797. In that version, the last lines read \u201cFourscore men and fourscore more \/ could not make Humpty Dumpty where he was before.\u201d Over the next century, the rhyme appeared in numerous books with variations on the lyrics.<\/p>\n<p>These publications did not include the first use of the term \u201chumpty dumpty,\u201d though. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, \u201chumpty dumpty\u201d was first used in the 17<sup>th<\/sup> century and referred to brandy boiled with ale. In the 1700s, it was also a term used to describe a short, clumsy person. It has also been a nickname attributed to someone who has had too much alcohol (perhaps imbibing the drink of the same name).<\/p>\n<p>As the popular nursery rhyme is neither a bottle of alcohol nor a person, it is most likely that the nursery rhyme was intended as a riddle. The answer to the riddle, of course, is &#8220;an egg&#8221;\u2014something that, if it rolled off a wall, could not be mended by any number of people. Today, the answer is so well known that the character of Humpty Dumpty has taken on the appearance of an egg and the rhyme is not considered to be a riddle at all, but a story.<\/p>\n<p>Because of this switch from &#8220;riddle&#8221; to &#8220;story&#8221;, many people today believe that there is more meaning to the nursery rhyme than is given in the lyrics. Perhaps, in this instance, we could take advice from Humpty Dumpty himself, as seen in <i>Through the Looking Glass<\/i> by Lewis Carroll: \u201cWhen I use a word, it means just what I choose it to mean\u2014neither more nor less.\u201d People will always attribute more meaning to nursery rhymes than was initially intended.<\/p>\n<p>Nursery rhymes are commonly linked to historical events, but it is difficult to prove that imagery in the nursery rhymes represents historical places and figures. Most modern rhymes, after all, are created with the intent of being silly, repetitive, and enjoyable for children to repeat rather than for their historical significance (think \u201cMiss Mary Mack\u201d and other clapping games).<\/p>\n<p>Two of the most popular theories link Humpty Dumpty to two separate historical events. The first is the Fall of Colchester. During the English Civil War in 1648, the town of Colchester was under siege. Supposedly, a man named Jack Thompson was stationed on the walls with a cannon nicknamed \u201cHumpty Dumpty.\u201d Thompson and the cannon managed to do a lot of damage to the advancing Parliamentarian troops, until the cannon eventually tumbled to the ground. Given the size and weight of the cannon, the dozens of men who attempted to lift it back to its place on the wall were unable to do so. Eventually, Colchester was forced to open its gates and surrender. While the siege of Colchester did happen, it is unlikely that Humpty Dumpty refers to anything in the siege as it happened over a century before Humpty Dumpty was recorded and there is no documented connection between the two.<\/p>\n<p>The other popular theory is that Humpty Dumpty represented King Richard III. , called the \u201chumpbacked king\u201d. (He supposedly was a hunchback, though recent evidence seems to indicate Shakespeare was wildly exaggerating on this point, with Richard actually apparently having scoliosis which made his right shoulder higher than the left, but otherwise no hunch).\u00a0 In 1485, Richard III fought at the Battle of Bosworth. In this &#8220;humpty dumpty&#8221; origin story, it was said that either his horse was named \u201cWall\u201d or his men, who abandoned him, were representative of the \u201cwall.\u201d Either way, the king fell off his horse and was supposedly hacked to pieces on the field\u2014thus no one could put him together again. Several problems exist with this theory, the least of which being that the term \u201chumpbacked\u201d didn&#8217;t exist in King Richard\u2019s day, nor for several centuries after. (The term &#8220;hunchback&#8221; also didn&#8217;t first pop up until the 18th century). Much more importantly was that the king\u2019s remains were recently found largely intact save for a bludgeon to the head which probably killed him. Additionally, other than pure speculation, as in the previous &#8220;siege of Colchester&#8221; theory, no solid historical evidence has been found that shows that King Richard III was the inspiration for Humpty Dumpty.\u00a0 And, indeed, one of the reasons it&#8217;s so often connected, because of the &#8220;all the king&#8217;s horses and all the king&#8217;s men&#8221; bit, as noted, wasn&#8217;t even in the original version, being the more generic &#8220;fourscore men and fourscore more&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>The historical events that have been linked to &#8220;Humpty Dumpty&#8221; provide excellent stories, but are based on pure speculation. Given the actual evidence at hand, it is far more likely that Humpty Dumpty was not intended to be a story, but rather just a riddle posed to children for their amusement.\u00a0 The answer to the riddle, as stated, is &#8220;an egg&#8221;, which is why Humpty Dumpty today is nearly always depicted as such.<\/p>\n<p>If you liked this article, you might also enjoy our new popular podcast, The BrainFood Show (<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-brainfoodshow\/id1350586459\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/36xpXQMPVXhWJzMoCHPJKd\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/playmusic.app.goo.gl\/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&#038;isi=691797987&#038;ius=googleplaymusic&#038;apn=com.google.android.music&#038;link=https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Insimdi4g6puyyr4qbt6tup5b6m?t%3DThe_BrainFood_Show%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Google Play Music<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/feed\/brainfood\/\" target=\"_blank\">Feed<\/a>), as well as:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2013\/04\/who-was-the-real-mother-goose\/\" target=\"_blank\">Who was the Real Mother Goose?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2012\/02\/this-day-in-history-christopher-columbus-tricks-native-jamaicans-into-giving-him-supplies-by-using-his-knowledge-of-an-upcomming-lunar-eclipse\/\" target=\"_blank\">When Christopher Columbus Used His Knowledge of a Lunar Eclipse to Convince Natives to Give Him Supplies<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2012\/01\/why-america-was-named-america\/\" target=\"_blank\">Why America is Called America<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2012\/10\/why-did-people-once-think-the-moon-was-made-out-of-cheese\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Origin of the &#8220;Moon is Made of Cheese&#8221; Myth<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2013\/04\/cinderellas-castle-was-modeled-after-bavarias-neuschwanstein-castle\/\" target=\"_blank\">The Story of Cinderella&#8217;s Castle<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span id=\"bonusfacts\">Bonus<\/span> Facts:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The first time the character of Humpty Dumpty was represented explicitly as an egg was in Lewis Carroll\u2019s <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1453709185\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=1453709185&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=vicastingcom-20\" target=\"_blank\"><i>Through the Looking Glass<\/i><\/a> in 1872.<\/li>\n<li>There is a supposed \u201clost\u201d verse to the Humpty Dumpty rhyme that \u201cproves\u201d the Colchester theory, but it is likely that was written recently in order to help with the argument that Humpty Dumpty was a cannon. The man who presented the new verses would not tell anyone the title of the book in which he found them nor where the book could be found.<\/li>\n<li>Riddles similar to Humpty Dumpty have been recorded in other languages\u2014the French &#8220;Boule Boule&#8221; and Swedish &#8220;Lille Trille&#8221; among them.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<span class=\"collapseomatic \" id=\"id69f0479473d98\"  tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Expand for References\"    >Expand for References<\/span><div id=\"target-id69f0479473d98\" class=\"collapseomatic_content \">\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/myths.e2bn.org\/mythsandlegends\/origins1-humpty-dumpty-and-the-fall-of-colchester.html\" target=\"_blank\">The Fall of Colchester<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Humpty_Dumpty\" target=\"_blank\">Humpty Dumpty<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/bshistorian.wordpress.com\/2008\/10\/11\/putting-the-dump-in-humpty-dumpty\/\" target=\"_blank\">Putting the Dump in Humpty Dumpty<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.straightdope.com\/columns\/read\/1494\/why-is-humpty-dumpty-portrayed-as-an-egg-even-though-eggs-arent-mentioned-in-the-nursery-rhyme\" target=\"_blank\">Why is Humpty Dumpty Portrayed as an Egg<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/suite101.com\/article\/the-possible-origin-of-humpty-dumpty-a66816\" target=\"_blank\">The Possible Origins of Humpty Dumpty<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rhymes.org.uk\/humpty_dumpty.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Humpty Dumpty<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Nevin asks: Why is &#8220;Humpty Dumpty&#8221; always depicted as an egg? As you seem to have noticed, in the &#8220;Humpty Dumpty&#8221; nursery rhyme, nowhere does it say that Humpty is an egg, yet he is often presented as such in pictures and stories. The version of the rhyme that most children learn today goes like this: Humpty Dumpty sat on [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":28,"featured_media":21052,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-20999","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-today-i-found-out","category-history"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20999","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/28"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=20999"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20999\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":21049,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/20999\/revisions\/21049"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/21052"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=20999"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=20999"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=20999"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}