{"id":13921,"date":"2012-12-13T20:00:14","date_gmt":"2012-12-14T04:00:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/?p=13921"},"modified":"2015-10-11T15:20:02","modified_gmt":"2015-10-11T22:20:02","slug":"was-one-of-the-bond-girls-really-formerly-a-man","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2012\/12\/was-one-of-the-bond-girls-really-formerly-a-man\/","title":{"rendered":"Was One of the Bond Girls Really Formerly a Man?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"pf-content\"><div class=\"highlighter\">Brenda asks: Did one of the Bond girls really used to be a man?<\/div>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/caroline-cossey-2.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-18131\" title=\"caroline-cossey-2\" src=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/caroline-cossey-2-e1355459051746-340x357.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"340\" height=\"357\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/caroline-cossey-2-e1355459051746-340x357.jpg 340w, http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/caroline-cossey-2-e1355459051746.jpg 373w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 340px) 100vw, 340px\" \/><\/a>That depends on how you define &#8220;man&#8221; and &#8220;Bond girl&#8221;.\u00a0 If you define &#8220;man&#8221; as a person who was born with a penis and &#8220;Bond girl&#8221; as any eye candy female that appeared in a Bond movie at any point, then yes- one of the Bond girls, or at least one of the women shown in a Bond movie (not a main character by any stretch), was born a man.\u00a0 If you define &#8220;man&#8221; as someone born with an XY chromosome pattern, rather than XX, like a typical woman, then no.<\/p>\n<p>You see, the woman in question, actress and model Caroline Cossey, born Barry Kenneth Cossey, was born with something known as Klinefelter Syndrome, which means she has an XXY chromosome pattern with 47 chromosomes, instead of 46.\u00a0 This is a condition that occurs in about 1 in every 500-1000 male births (and significantly more rarely occurs in females).\u00a0 This makes it one of the most common chromosome abnormalities known to man.<\/p>\n<p>Some of the common side effects of this are low testosterone levels compared to most males, wider hips, less muscle mass, possible breasts (in about 1\/3 of the cases), generally infertile, and significantly less body and facial hair, among other things.<\/p>\n<p>Now, traditionally those with Klinefelter Syndrome have been called &#8220;XXY males&#8221;, to distinguish them from &#8220;normal&#8221; XY males.\u00a0 However, in the International Journal of Andrology published in 2011,various researchers from several Australian medical institutes proposed in a paper,\u00a0 <em>Thinking Outside the Square: Considering Gender in Klinefelter Syndrome<\/em>, that some XXY &#8220;males&#8221; should actually be called XXY &#8220;females&#8221; and others simply intersex.<\/p>\n<p>The specific point of the paper was that perhaps Klinefelter Syndrome should be detached from &#8220;XXY&#8221;. Most with this condition are clearly male and identify as such, but a small percentage seem to be female, and thus typical treatment for Klinefelter Syndrome, including being given testosterone starting during puberty, may be damaging psychologically as it would make the person&#8217;s body more male-like, when in fact they were female.\u00a0 As these treatments preferably start at a very young age, the child may not be in a position to assert this one way or the other.\u00a0 (In another study, there was even a case where the researchers came across a rare XXY female (born with a vagina), who since childhood had always thought of herself as a male and demonstrated stereotypical male-like tendencies from the beginning.)<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_18132\" style=\"width: 192px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/Barry_Cossey.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-18132\" class=\"size-full wp-image-18132\" title=\"Barry Cossey\" src=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/12\/Barry_Cossey.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"182\" height=\"245\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-18132\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Barry Cossey at the age of 16 before beginning hormone treatment.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>While Cossey was indeed born with a penis, throughout her youth she was extremely feminine in personality, looks, and personal preference tendencies, which often resulted in her getting bullied at school.\u00a0 She was also frequently mistaken for a girl by those who didn&#8217;t know her. (You can see in the picture to the right just how feminine she looked as a teen.)\u00a0 From this, if you buy into the medical researchers&#8217; argument proposed in their paper, we&#8217;d perhaps say that Cossey was one of those XXY&#8217;ers who, while born with a penis, was actually an XXY female.<\/p>\n<p>In her late teens, after dropping out of school and working a few odd jobs, she became friends with a transsexual and at that point, at the age of 17, started hormone therapy.\u00a0 She also started working as a showgirl and later, after breast surgery, as a topless dancer.\u00a0 Once she&#8217;d saved up enough to be able to pay for sex reassignment surgery, she had that done too with her final surgery in 1974.<\/p>\n<p>She started modeling before her reassignment surgery and continued under the name &#8220;Tula&#8221; after with a lot of success, appearing in numerous magazines, including some adult magazines where she&#8217;d pose topless.\u00a0 She later even appeared in a 1981 edition of Playboy.\u00a0 She also would have started a role as a model in a game show in 1978, but she quit the show when a journalist discovered she was born with a penis and was going to break the story.<\/p>\n<p>Unfortunately, her career was severely stunted from this as she had to try to keep a low profile to keep her secret from being published.\u00a0 This all ended in 1981 when she appeared in the Bond, <em>For Your Eyes Only<\/em>, film and the story broke, for a time being front page news.\u00a0 The aftermath of this was initially devastating to Cossey who was sure her career as a model was over, but eventually she moved on and continued modeling, as well as writing two autobiographies, the second of which, <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/0571129099\/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0571129099&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=vicastingcom-20\" target=\"_blank\">My Story<\/a> was written in 1992.\u00a0 She&#8217;s today married to Canadian David Finch; the two recently celebrated their 20th anniversary.<\/p>\n<p>If you liked this article, you might also enjoy our new popular podcast, The BrainFood Show (<a href=\"https:\/\/itunes.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-brainfoodshow\/id1350586459\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">iTunes<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/36xpXQMPVXhWJzMoCHPJKd\" target=\"_blank\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/playmusic.app.goo.gl\/?ibi=com.google.PlayMusic&#038;isi=691797987&#038;ius=googleplaymusic&#038;apn=com.google.android.music&#038;link=https:\/\/play.google.com\/music\/m\/Insimdi4g6puyyr4qbt6tup5b6m?t%3DThe_BrainFood_Show%26pcampaignid%3DMKT-na-all-co-pr-mu-pod-16\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">Google Play Music<\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/feed\/brainfood\/\" target=\"_blank\">Feed<\/a>), as well as:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/10\/really-difference-mens-womens-razors-shaving-creams\/\">Is There Any Difference at all Between Men\u2019s and Women\u2019s Razors and Shaving Creams?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/05\/beethoven-really-deaf-wrote-music-2\/\">Was Beethoven Really Deaf When He Wrote All His Music?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2014\/04\/battle-karansebes\/\">Did the Austrian Army Really Accidentally End Up Fighting Itself in a Major Battle?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2010\/09\/why-mens-bicycles-have-a-horizontal-crossbar-and-womens-bicycles-typically-dont\/\">Why Men\u2019s Bicycles Have a Horizontal Crossbar and Women\u2019s Bicycles Typically Don\u2019t<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/2013\/06\/high-heels-were-popular-among-men-before-women\/\">High Heels Were Popular Among Men Before Women<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<span class=\"collapseomatic \" id=\"id69f17b01a1a92\"  tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Expand for References\"    >Expand for References<\/span><div id=\"target-id69f17b01a1a92\" class=\"collapseomatic_content \">\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov\/pubmed\/21453406\" target=\"_blank\">Thinking Outside the Square: Considering Gender in Klinefelter Syndrome<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/resources.metapress.com\/pdf-preview.axd?code=80j25151525x7gp7&amp;size=largest\" target=\"_blank\">A 47,XXY Female with Gender Identify Disorder<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Caroline_Cossey\" target=\"_blank\">Caroline Cossey<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Klinefelter%27s_syndrome\" target=\"_blank\">Klinefelter Syndrome<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/name\/nm0876302\/bio\" target=\"_blank\">Tula<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mi6-hq.com\/sections\/articles\/history_transsexual_bond_girl.php3?t=&amp;s=girls&amp;id=0966\" target=\"_blank\">Transexual Bond Girl<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Brenda asks: Did one of the Bond girls really used to be a man? That depends on how you define &#8220;man&#8221; and &#8220;Bond girl&#8221;.\u00a0 If you define &#8220;man&#8221; as a person who was born with a penis and &#8220;Bond girl&#8221; as any eye candy female that appeared in a Bond movie at any point, then yes- one of the Bond [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":18135,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2308,3,12],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13921","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-answers","category-today-i-found-out","category-entertainment"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13921","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13921"}],"version-history":[{"count":22,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13921\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":43710,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13921\/revisions\/43710"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/18135"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13921"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13921"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/www.todayifoundout.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13921"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}